paladinlost: (confused)
Cecil Harvey ([personal profile] paladinlost) wrote2012-10-01 07:34 pm

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[Johto, Kanto, today a sad Butterfree is now staring at you from somewhere inside Goldenrod's Pokémon Center. Enjoy.]

This is Esuna, my Butterfree. She's a Bug- and Flying-type, and she cannot use the Hidden Machine Fly.

[The sad Butterfree is replaced with the back of a Volcarona, who is currently busy looking out the window.]

This is Ceo, my Volcarona. He's a Bug- and Fire-type, and unlike Esuna he has successfully learned Fly. In fact, he can even bear for my weight for a few moments.

[Only a few, but that's still pretty impressive for a bug.]

...Sometimes I wonder who created those TMs and HMs, and what was their logic when choosing Pokémon compatibilities. You'd think the Flying-type would be more likely to get that particular attack, even if they both have wings.

[Except not, because that would be logical and sensible.]
machinamonkey: (Uh What?)

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[personal profile] machinamonkey 2012-10-02 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously! I've got two Fire-types, and they can't learn the same Fire moves. It's stupid.
machinamonkey: (Murr Face)

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[personal profile] machinamonkey 2012-10-02 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno all the moves, but Maqui can't learn Will O' Wisp and Vena can.
machinamonkey: (Murr Face)

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[personal profile] machinamonkey 2012-10-02 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
I know.

[A pause]

Well, at least, Maqui hasn't learned Will O' Wisp. I dunno if that means he can't learn it from a TM, but Vena was born knowing it, so.

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babel_hacker: (Thinking | Is that so?)

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[personal profile] babel_hacker 2012-10-02 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like to know that as well. Their criteria or reasoning for why some Pokemon can or cannot learn some moves.
babel_hacker: (Thinking | Working on something)

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[personal profile] babel_hacker 2012-10-04 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Return? [He have seen that TM at the Department Store. Haven't bought it yet.] I think a move like that's pretty much open to every Pokemon. It's powered by our bonds, right? So every Pokemon can learn it, theoretically.
babel_hacker: (Laptop | Programming)

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[personal profile] babel_hacker 2012-10-08 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
I guess for Cut, you need something to cut with...I got nothing for Flash right now.

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eclectical: (hmmmm...)

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[personal profile] eclectical 2012-10-03 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the TMs and HMs really don't make a whole lot of sense sometimes. I think one of the silliest cases I've come across is Audino being able to learn Surf...
eclectical: (uh... thats nice i guess?)

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[personal profile] eclectical 2012-10-03 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Wow... Yeah, that wouldn't be good at all! Now I'm really wondering what the people who make those things are thinking...
eclectical: (hmmmm...)

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[personal profile] eclectical 2012-10-05 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It would probably be impossible to program them based on personality... Maybe they just tried to base it on the general temperament of the species?

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[personal profile] bakaitoukid 2012-10-03 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
I learned a long time ago to stop trying to make this world logical.

[he says with a slightly amused tone in his voice]

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[personal profile] bakaitoukid 2012-10-03 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Keep hoping. Maybe one day you'll eventually find it.

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[personal profile] bakaitoukid 2012-10-08 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
[amused snort]

Hopefully before, but you can never be too sure.

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islandshore: (that's pretty special)

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[personal profile] islandshore 2012-10-06 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
A bug and fire type? Man, that's gotta be one of the strangest combos I've seen.

[Still, that's... interesting. Very interesting.]

It is pretty strange, though. Every flying bug type can't learn the move, but Pokémon like Nidoking and Tyranitar can somehow learn Surf. Also, Gastly can learn punching attacks, and it doesn't even have hands.
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islandshore: (unsure)

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[personal profile] islandshore 2012-10-06 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. My friends and I are headed that direction, actually. Maybe I should keep my eyes out for that bug...

[He does need more bug type representation for his business, anyway.]

I think the fact that Dragonites can fly to begin with is pretty strange, though. Most of them have the tiniest wings, and their bulk doesn't really help with that.

['Course, Draco's a twig compared to most Dragonites, and his wings are a fair bit larger, so at least there's that.]
islandshore: (determined)

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[personal profile] islandshore 2012-10-06 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I've got a level 100 Blastoise on hand. Not to mention a Hydreigon that knows Surf and a Charizard with Rock Slide. I'd thought about bringing my Metagross for some training, but since he's a steel type...

[Yeah, no. Not a good idea.]

And maybe Dragonites are just... magic. They could have helium inside them for all we know.

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